Broncos vs. Hawks

[ben05rs]

I missed watching my first Broncos game in 3 years due to some BS paid programming in KC (yes I live close to Kansas City, and yes I laugh at the Chiefs very often) and it pissed me off....bad.

So while I cannot comment directly on this game I there a few comments I would like to make on the team in general.

First:
You claim to be the biggest Plummer fans ever...maybe so..maybe not...I LOVE THIS GUY. I have never seen a player try harder at any sport than Jake at football. Last game of the season, 2006 I think, Jake comes in against the Niners when Cutler goes down with a concussion. Jake throws a pick (i would have intentionally with the nutsty way the broncos treated him) and the ONLY player who chases down the dback who grabbed it is Jake Plummer. He had NO chance of catching him (and he knew it) but still this guy sprints his ass off 30 yards back with some prayer to catch him. My point: I love Jake and everything he stood for in todays nuts world of overpaid and way overpampered professional athletes.

Second:
And I'm tired so I'm sure whoever it is who runs LPP will want to hear more about this but....If Denver were ever to let Shanny go it wouldn't be a week before another team picked him up. I will surrender that the real "mastermind" behind his prolific offenses was overwhelmingly Kubiak, but shanahan knows how to coach. Look for another coach today that doesnt coach in boston that has done what he has. NOBODY! I would be deeply saddened if Bowlen were to let him go, but lets face it LPP- you're fighting a losing fight. Bowlen and Shanny play golf every weekend in the offseason. Their wives hang out. It's the broncos family basically.---I will be happy to elaborate when I'm not exhausted.

Third
As much as I LOVE Jake Plummer, and would rather hang out with him any day than Jay...though Jay seems like a cool guy, he never had the natural talent that Cutler does (which is why I like Jake so much). But come on, I'm not someone who's gonna ride the Broncos nuts because I know there are a LOT of things that need a LOT of work but Cutler isn't one of them. Sure there are a lot of things he needs to correct, but he is well ahead of the curve. Not only that, he has the natural talent it takes to elevate his game to the next level. He is a tough player, and is finally starting to show a pair as a leader. I hated when he would hang his head and walk off the field after 3 and out, but he's stepping up and ripping the head's off of the players who are sucking ass. Its starting to work though, he is the obvious leader of the offense.

Fourth...and nobody would ever argue this point
Karl Paymah is by far the worst player in the NFL. How did this guy make his JV highschool team?





LPP, i look forward to discussing broncos issues with you...and i apologize for the lack of depth in my comments but you must understand i am an exhausted college student who should really be asleep.

[Lpp]

Ok. Once and for all, and since it's not on the main page, I'll say it. I think Shanahan is a great coach. At one time I thought he was the mastermind people once called him. It's just that for the last 10 years he has made so many decisions that have been detrimental to team development. A million times we have talked about the 05 season where Jake took them all the way to the AFC Championship and was even able to take down the almighty Patriots. How do you come back and bench that same quarterback the very next year. If Shanny had let him play the next year, we would have made the playoffs and who knows what would have happened. Since then we haven't even made the playoffs.

I just think it's time for change. My favorite coach of all time is Phil Jackson. If Phil goes 10 years straight without winning a championship I'd say it's time for him to go! Hell, Shanny can't even get a team to the playoffs since Jake left. Therefore you start to wonder? Yeah, I think Jay is great, he seems to have all the necessary skills, but are they enough?

Elway had the skills and was great and took the Broncos SINGLE HANDEDLY to the BOWL 3x! Jay hasn't even got them to the playoffs let alone the bowl.

Time shall tell, but at this point I still think Shanny has made some horendous decisions over the last 3-4 years!

[vercillo15]

My Thoughts on the Game......

After watching the last 2 victories on the road I can confidently say that our back-up linebackers, Woodyard and Winborn, are playing 10X better than Webster and Bailey. Has anyone else noticed this too?? I know we still have a nutsty defense but these 2 guys have really stepped up. What happened to Niko anyway?? Before the season I thought (along with Madden) that he would be our starting MLB. I guess he just couldn't beat out the other guys in camp.

The best thing about Patrick Hillis, in my opinion, is his ability to be involved in the passing game. This guy can catch while taking hits which is something most receivers/tight ends cannot do. Having him as an option out of the backfield is a major benefit to an already stout offensive game (barring all those turnovers).

And finally..... I have to agree with Ben05rs on Karl Paymah. I was happy to see a lot less of him in this game because he is, as already mentioned, without a doubt the worst DB in the history of the Broncos. How many times did Greg Camarillo run a comeback route against him and was wide open??? I think my count was at 7 for the game but i may have "misremembered". Was he afraid of Camarillo's speed or something?? Cause letting him humiliate us like that is very embarrassing.

Oh and 1 more thing......Suck on that San Diego. You think Phillip "The Mouth" Rivers is still talking as much now??...And unlike all those sour gamblers in Vegas I did pick San Diego to beat the spread so everything as fine on my end.

[Andy]

How is it that everytime Denver wins no one on this site will talk about how well Jay played that game?? HE HAS HAD TWO FOURTH QUARTER COMEBAKCS IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS!!!

[vercillo15]

Yeah Jay Cutler had another tremendous performance against Atlanta. Not only did he bring us back with another game winning drive he also avoided turning the ball over which is something he must continue. I dunno about not mentioning him.....the problem with him is that he plays well every game so it's expected that he will put on another great performance day in and day out.

[ben05rs]

LPP-


Shanahan should never have benched Plummer during the 06 season. We would have made the playoffs and I think we would have beat the Colts. how about if Shanny gets us to the bowl in the next 3 years?? Would that be too long? I think back to back championships buy him an extra couple years.

[Lpp]

Ok ok, Jay played well! Yee ha I said it. Next time he plays well I'll even post a story about it on the homepage!

By the way, we certainly poke fun at Jay all the time, but we also have strongly supported him in his abilities. This site was created out of love for Jake, then turned into anti Shanny stuff with Cutler jokes thrown in.

However we also often provide pretty interesting stats that others simply ignore!

;D

[stevecan2]

Jay Cutler is an average quarterback with more hype about him than he has ever earned. Not a winning season since High School, dropped a 7-4 team from the playoffs and to me looks like he is doped up on Prozak 24/7... Not until we have at least a winning season or a playoff appearance will I ever give him credit. I can give two ounces of give a (*$(* what his stats may be or what is going on with injuries. We had a quarterback, who if nothing else at least managed a solid team to 3 years of consecutive playoffs and an AFC Championship game. In todays game, at the end of the day those are the stats that matter, even if the road to get their wasnt pretty. As far as Shanahan, I believed in him, until we stopped going to the playoffs and having winning seasons. And of course my brief stay in Kansas City when I was able to hang out with former Broncs WR Eddie Kennison, and he flat out told me how if you don't suck Shanahan off at every chance he will bury you.

[Lpp]

Well Steve, that's a pretty fair assesment.